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Re: trusting one's self

Posted by:	Bryn
Date:	05/19/2005, 07:16:56
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Ghi, you assert :

"he does not direct on a personal level and allows people to find what's right individually."

Ghi, what are you talking about? This man Rawat is a living, fully functioning guru. His entire influence on his students, by his own repeated statement, is as a living master. Its personal. Everything he does is directed from one individual to another. He says so.

Your lust to make authoritative spiritual sounding statements clearly gets the better of you to the extent that you blatently contradict your guru's own statements about himself.

Have a rest Ghi. Take some time off. You are not responsible for "this Knowledge", your master, or the misguided of the world.

Love Bryn

gourmet sentence

Posted by:	quirky
Date:	05/19/2005, 09:50:25
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Your lust to make authoritative spiritual sounding statements clearly gets the better of you to the extent that you blatently contradict your guru's own statements about himself.

What a great sentence!

"lusting to make authoritative spiritual sounding statements..." is like literary gourmet dark chocolate.

individual choices

Posted by:	ghi
Date:	05/19/2005, 14:06:36
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Hi Bryn, to your question:

Ghi, you assert : "he does not direct on a personal level and allows people to find what's right individually."

Ghi, what are you talking about? This man Rawat is a living, fully functioning guru.

What I am talking about was that he does not direct me personally, or others. Of course he functions as a person from his personal level but does not give guidance to individuals on where to work, what to do, etc. This was responding to Babaluji's assertion that he couldn't develop a career because of m. That's all. There was no 'lust' to make an 'authorative statement'. And I am rested, thank you Bryn.

love back to you,

Ghi

You are dishonestly skirting the issue, Ghi

Posted by:	gerry
Date:	05/19/2005, 14:34:32
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Now look Ghi, I stuck up for you in the chatroom, saying you had some integrity, but now you are making me wonder.

You know damn well nobody is claiming that Rawat gives advice to individuals on a specific level. At least not your rank-and-file premie.

You know Baba was referring to the hundreds of statements Guru Maharaji made disparaging "worldly things." If anyone takes the guru by his word seriously, one would conclude that devotion and service to the "Perfect Master of Our Time" takes precedence over any "worldy" ambition.

It's all there in black and white. Lots of people took him at his literal word and are having a tough time now because of it. The guru's bad advice and it's detrimental effects have been explain over and over again.

You are defending the indefensible, but providing a valuable service here, showing people (once again, like the other premies before you did) just how immoral and degenerating guru worship really is. I only wish it didn't have to be at the expense of your personal integrity.