You remind me of an old friend I just spoke to for the first time in 8 years. We were both in the ashram together and propogated k for many years.
Here is part of the conversation after the initial 'hi', 'good to hear your voice' type stuff.
Me: So, I have to tell you that I'm no longer with M, in fact I think he is a bad person.
Marty: Well, we each have to live according to our own experience. I follow mine and I respect the fact that you follow yours.
Me: Have you heard about the Jagdeo stuff?
....(a long conversation follows where I tell him all the stuff and give him the name of an EV representative who told me that he believed that 'Jagdeo was in it up to his neck')....
Me: So how do you feel about the fact that you may be following a paedophille protector?
Marty(tone of voice lowers into sincerity mode): That's not the question. The question is what is my own experience?
Me: Actually Marty, I wasn't asking you about your experience, I was asking your thoughts and opinions
about the possibility that m may really be a right sod(to put it mildly).
Marty(in very sincere voice): These things go on all over the world; it's in our nature.
Me: Ok, so tell me how do you feel about the possibility that m may have very been protecting jagdeo and others?
Marty: My experienvce is all that matters...THAT is the point.
Me: Ye Marty, I also have 'an experience' which has in fact increased since I left M...but I'm asking you as a fellow human being how you feel about having an honest critical look at m.
Marty:I know my own experience and THAT is what matters.
Me: Marty, I really love you but I have to say taht I think you're kidding yourself. You seem have given up any form of discriminatory thinking.
Tell me do you still believe m is god?
Marty: It doesn't matter what I think, it's my experience that is important
Me: Ok, ok I know you have an experience.....but do you still believe he is god?
Marty: It doesn't matter what I think, it's my experience that is
And so the conversation continued.
The rest was in same ilk.
I just find it really depressing that many followers/students/premies of m have given up all human values and cannot make value judgements.
That's all for now.