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Editor's Note: Of course the ugliness and fighting that is mentioned in this series of posts can be blamed on me. But, that's why I make the big bucks!

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Sun, Jan 30, 2000 at 05:05:05 (GMT)

From:  

JB

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To:  

Jean-Michel

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Your info, as usual, is absurd
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'I've just got some news today from premiedom. Everything's
cancelled ('events'). Premies are sad and freaking out.'

Sorry JM, hate to spoil your small-minded fantasy but that's quite the load of speculative, negatively hopeful horseshit.

Nothing's cancelled, Maharaji seems very happy and the people I know were quite strongly inspired by the satellite broadcast, in which he seemed anything but 'depressed.'

You really believe that if you keep repeating 'facts' that you and others here have concocted all on their own, enough times, that they somehow magically become true? In the areas of M's state of mind, motivation, activities and interest in dwelling where YOU'RE stuck, you're, ohh...about 180 degrees off. The speculations about the $ and the satellites, the grade-school level insults etc., paint a far more accurate picture of YOU then of him. You really have no idea what and who you're talking about at this point. He's a made-up character to you now.

I haven't been here in a while, and the proportion of pure (straining the boundaries of the word) imagination to anything REMOTELY resembling reality has climbed drastically.

Not to mention the wonderful vibes splattered all over this list. This is supposed to be an example of the great benefits of trashing M. For those who might be saying, 'Yeah, but at least we get to say what we want,' take a long look at what you're broadcasting. There's a reason that not everyone is a teacher or master in any subject. This page makes that abundantly clear. Yes, everyone has the right to play the saxophone. That doesn't make you John Coltrane, bud. You aren't even (shudder) Kenny G. But the net gives you a place to make your god-awful squawking noises.

There's no music coming out of here.

Enjoy your weird, destructive hopes and fantasies. They have nothing to do with the reality. Maybe you can at least exorcise your cooties on this subject and move on to something more fun and constructive. The fact that your discussions degenerate to name-calling and insults with each other, let alone premies, so rapidly should tell you something.

'Til then, I just thought SOMEONE should mention, in the interests of free flow of information, that MOST (an extraordinarily high %) of what's written on this list right now is either flat-out false, wildly exaggerated or invented from the thinnest shreds of long-distance, passed-along gossip. Have you considered starting a column reviewing movies you haven't seen?

The rest are either insults or invitations to go out drinking. I'd suggest going for the drink.

Good luck, JB

Date:  

Sun, Jan 30, 2000 at 20:41:34 (GMT)

From:  

JW

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To:  

JB

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Thanks for that Ignorant Post
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You know, it's really interesting that, on the one hand, you trash people for questioning M's motives, and in the same breath question the motives of everyone who posts here. It makes you sound very ignorant.

And what EXACTLY that gets posted here is 'flat out false' and who the fuck are you to know that it's 'false?'

It is the wontof those, like you, who can't defend their position to make those kinds of sweeping generalities while at the same time presenting not one shread of evidence on the other side.

Oh, and by the way, the fact that Maharaji and the cult sites don't allow open discussion and engage in rampant censorship DOES say a helluva lot, maybe not to you, but to any thinking person it does.

Date:  

Sun, Jan 30, 2000 at 19:52:02 (GMT)

From:  

Selene

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To:  

JB

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Your info, as usual, is absurd
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you know JB if I didn't have distinct and very recent clear memories of awful terrible very ugly last days of prmiedom, I'd almost be inclined to agree, just based on reading the squabbles that have gone on here.

But you see that isn't it. YOU have it wrong. Sure there are some people who are very angry at each other, at the moment. Or were. I think some of it has already changed actually. Which is what is so good about being able to voice it.
They did - they didn't smile and pretend to be in some false nirvana and so it came out and yes it was ugly or at best boring.

I find this preferable to choking on it and holding on til the next event, oh I mean broadcast. 

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4 As bright as the lights on Maharaji's jet
3 As bright as a 60 watt light bulb
2 As bright as a pile of burning ghi on a swinging arti tray
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