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Thurs, Feb 03, 2000 at 04:32:43 (GMT)

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Sir Dave

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All

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Preferred to have been his ally
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A young, arrogant boy comes to the West when the hippy culture is looking for the next step. But it was more Maharaji's mahatmas and a few western devotees who set the whole thing going in the west and got people to believe that Maharaji was the Lord.

It was these super-premies who always paved the way for Maharaji to take control. Without them he would have been nothing in the west.

I don't think Maharaji is bad or evil. He always must have been confused and has often projected that confusion onto his devotees. Yes he is arrogant but it is one of life's laws of the jungle that the arrogant and the blindly audacous, do well, for a while at least until people get wise to them. And yes he has often been cruel. Perhaps he will come to regret that, as we all do in time.

Maharaji probably is very annoyed at the presence of my website on the net. And I have to say that I do not maintain that site out of malace but really because I don't want anyone else to be deluded into thinking Maharaji is anything other than what he is. I wish I never had to put the site there, it is not a joyfull task.

As a man, Maharaji may have the best of everything but he still shits like the rest of us and sweats when he gets hot. But his striving for ever more money is an endless road that has led him to no greater happiness. He's missed the point of his own message.

He has proven to be too wrapped up in himself to notice what really happened. Therefore, he is to be sympathised with. He is a phenomenon that could only have happened in the latter half of the twentieth century. The internet has now put an end to such delusion.

The fact that Maharaji cannot reach out and make amends with the people who once followed him, shows that he has not felt something, that he may be too involved with his own trip to realise or see the people he affected.

He retreats into his ivory tower when it would have been better for him to move forward and step down. He is unable to communicate with the people who were his devotees. He does not know how to deal with it all. His advisors lack vision and courage to tell Maharaji what would be the best way forward. He has never got the best advice and is surrounded by 'yes men'.

Maharaji himself will admit that he was a unique phenominon. He was pushed forward into the limelight at a very early age and did remarkably well. But he got lost along the way. Doesn't that just happen to the best of us.

I hope that some day, Maharaji will feel the feelings that he has missed out on and know more what it to be an ordinary human. It is the only way that it is all going to make sense to him. Now I see Maharaji as just an ordanary, extraordinary individual who has tried and got lost in the jungle. As myself, I have been through a lot and can appreciate what he has been through and will still go through.

And for this I say; Maharaji is just a mere human, like us all. He is not a demon but someone who got lost along the way.

Money, power and all of these things amount to nothing when the chips are down. Perhaps he knows this. But Maharaji, it is sad that it should have turned out this way, isn't it; with half of your devotees baying for your blood. I hope that as the page is turned, the story will take a different course. And then, all of this will have been worthwhile and we all will have learned something from it and be better and closer to each other because of it.

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Thurs, Feb 03, 2000 at 04:45:06 (GMT)

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Jim

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Sir David

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Can't someone become 'bad'?
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David,

There's no question that Maharaji didn't plot to be a cult leader in the cradle. Yes, he was a cute kid. Aren't we all? But that doesn't mean that he hasn't evolved into an evil man. I think that the iron-grip he has on all expression or information flow in the cult more than proves that, at this point anyway, he's absolutely indifferent to the real fate of his followers. So long as they follow (i.e. give) he'll lead (i.e. take). No, I think he has indeed become an evil person.

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Thurs, Feb 03, 2000 at 15:01:12 (GMT)

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Sir David

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Jim

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Can't someone become 'bad'?
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Isn't it his paranoia which has led to him trying to control the information within the cult? With his 'double life' he has good reason to become paranoid that people might find out that he's just an ordinary person and not a master of life.

But I think he demonstrates all along his lack of understanding of other people. That's where we think differently. I don't think he's evil but I do think he's unable to come to terms with and face his accusers. It is not something he's ever learned to do.

He is himself the result of being spoilt. The man who is born a god is never going to understand those people who look up to him as their god. Sure he'll exploit them but he will remain very distant from them. For example, could you imagine Maharaji going to some very ordinary Mr and Mrs Premie's house for dinner? Or letting Joe Blow premies all come round to his house for tea and a game of Monopoly? For him, such a thing would be unthinkable which shows that he's created a huge gulf between himself and other people.

Perhaps that gulf was created for him. It's very hard to bridge that gulf once it's there. And he has done the opposite now and retreated. The best thing for him would have been to step down off the stage and sit down with the premies in the audience and listen to them give satsang, or just sit and chat about everything with them.

But to continue the Master act, is surely a show with a limited run.

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Thurs, Feb 03, 2000 at 08:25:59 (GMT)

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Loaf

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Can't someone become 'bad'?
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Its different for him - power corrupts... and as insulated as he is within his own belief system and social status - he is no different (in principle) from the Royal Family. The Queen gets up in the morning and shaves the Queen's face... just as m does the Living Master's.

In such a climate - arrogance breeds. Not his fault, nor can he voluntarily stop it - but rather it will (and has) taken its own gentle organic course.

No need for ill feeling... all things must change.

Editor's note: The following post from Ralph Delp is not in sequence.

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Thurs, Feb 03, 2000 at 08:25:59 (GMT)

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Thurs, Feb 03, 2000 at 15:56:38 (GMT)

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Ralph Delp

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Ms. K

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Maudlin at best.
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Ms. K. wrote:
Well-written and sincerely expressed! Although his sentiments were not something that everyone on this forum will necessarily agree with, I still think it's a great post.


Ralph Delp responded:
OK so M's a regular guy. Not!! He knows exactly what he's doing, has had high powered advice and utilizes the very latest technology and psychological methods to hypnotize, ensnare, enslave and squeeze every last dime out of his dupes. The fucker is EVIL! Evil exists and he personifies it. I may feel some sympathy for his immediate family but not him. Get real, Dave. You're sounding like some new age powder puff.

5 Brighter than 1000 suns as seen through night vision goggles
4 As bright as the lights on Maharaji's jet
3 As bright as a 60 watt light bulb
2 As bright as a pile of burning ghi on a swinging arti tray
1 As bright as the inner light as seen by the third eye
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