Facebook comment from a premie
Posted by: Susan
Post title: Facebook comment from a premie
Date: 08/15/2025, 16:45:21
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"well old friend, I'd say there is relative truth and there is essential truth. My deep research has been into the ladder (sic). For me it renders relative truth immaterial."


(Susan's thought on above) 

Such and example of how we were taught to deny virtually anything. 



Re: Facebook comment from a premie
Posted by: lesley
Post title: Re: Facebook comment from a premie
Date: 08/15/2025, 19:52:06
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omg, that's like saying the trees and the rocks and the animals are immaterial.    

As you say - it's a nonsense saying to deflect and deny.



Re: Facebook comment from a premie
Posted by: 13
Post title: Re: Facebook comment from a premie
Date: 08/16/2025, 00:46:33
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I don't think this deep research included any book on philosophy. 



Essential truth for sure!
Posted by: lakeshore
Post title: Essential truth for sure!
Date: 08/16/2025, 08:20:14
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What we have here is a premie doing premie things. (Someone gave me a hat that says "Bob doing Bob things" ). No different than a premie saying "I don't believe, I know," this premie jacks relative truth into his or her own version of essential truth, which by definition makes it relative truth.

They either make stuff up or gravitate towards Prem Rawat's not so subtly implanted hints and then they mentally coax (or contort) themselves into knowing it to be true because they n e e e d it to be true. It reminds me of the cloud of dust surrounding Pig Pen in the Peanuts comic strip... Prem calls it clarity.

They make stuff up like "It was common in India" or it's no longer relevant because "That's old news!," not to mention all the other lies they come-up with, but because they so desperately need it to be true, suddenly it becomes essential truth. Why? Because it's essential to holding their shoddy belief system together!



Bob!
Posted by: 13
Post title: Bob!
Date: 08/16/2025, 09:45:28
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Did you forget? It's not a belief system, it's an experience. 



:-) Re: Bob!
Posted by: lakeshore
Post title: :-) Re: Bob!
Date: 08/16/2025, 17:02:46
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Ya know... you get to be my age and you forget a lot of things! You're absolutely right. It's because making up stuff - whatever it takes and at all costs - and declaring it to be essential truth is essential to blocking out reality and keeping that experience from unraveling.



reminds me of this
Posted by: Susan
Post title: reminds me of this
Date: 08/16/2025, 23:42:01
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We are trapped in a Groucho Marx routine:

"Who are you going to believe, me, or your lying eyes?"